Barbara Else Talks about the Business of Books


“Writers’ income is always an awkward cash flow – sometimes it flows and sometimes it doesn’t!”

Season 4 of the NZSA Oral History podcast continues with a second episode from Barbara Else, from her 2020 oral history interview with Naomi Arnold.


Barbara Else is a celebrated New Zealand author but has also been closely involved with a number of writers’ and literary organisations. She has served on the NZ Book Council and on the NZSA National Council, and was instrumental in setting up both the New Zealand Association of Literary Agents and the New Zealand Association of Manuscript Assessors. In this episode you can hear Barbara and Naomi discuss these organisations, copyright, author incomes, and much more about not just writing books, but also the business of books.

Barbara’s episode is accompanied by a beautiful photo portrait of the writer taken by Naomi Arnold and is hosted by New Zealand broadcaster, NZSA member and author Karyn Hay.
This is the fourth season of the NZSA Oral History Podcasts, using interviews with New Zealand writers that NZSA began recording in the 1990’s.

You can listen to the first episode featuring Barbara and all past episodes from our writers, on our website, Google, Spotify, Soundcloud, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen (search ‘NZ Society of Authors’).

NZSA would like to thank The Southern Trust for funding this season, and also UNESCO and the Otago Community Trust for the funding to record new oral histories with authors based in Otago.

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